Harm ocd

12 October 2018 - 19:40

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Hi all. Just wondered if anyone else ever experiences this. Sometimes if I'm driving or walking the dog or something I will get intrusive thoughts of what if i harmed someone or ran someone over. But even if I'm with someone else or even have the whole family with me I can still get the thoughts/doubts.
I mean it's not like my husband is going to casually stand there while I punch an old lady is it. The fact I get these intrusions even when I'm with others is even more irrational than having them on your own.

13 October 2018 - 6:30

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Not entirely sure what information you're after, this can be explained in several ways.

A) Habit. You're used to triggers causing intrusive thoughts, so they'll return regardless of minor variations in your environment.

B) Whether you're with someone or not doesn't alter your person agency. You're still capable of action, which is what your anxiety is latching onto and why you're still getting intrusive thoughts.

No offense, but you're dealing with symptoms when you should be dealing with the disease. OCD will continue morphing until you tackle the source, you need to be speaking to a therapist about this.

13 October 2018 - 15:58

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Hey GT01. Thanks for replying.
What do you mean when you say I'm dealing with symptoms and not the illness?
I saw a therapist once who said to remember I'm the commentator not the game. Still not sure what that means.
Another therapist told me to imagine the bad stuff happening in detail.
Thanks for your input

13 October 2018 - 16:30

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The symptom is your thoughts, the source is your amygdala. everyone gets these thoughts but quickly put them aside, but you are latching on.

14 October 2018 - 6:41

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By "you're dealing with symptoms when you should be dealing with the disease" I mean you're looking at each individual thought and trying to analyse and understand them one at a time. This is playing into the OCD, because as each thought occurs, you're giving it more attention than others, causing them to repeat. The more you focus on trying to solve them the worse they become. You're focusing on symptoms, not the disease.

I realise now my comment was rather abrupt, but the hope was to give a helpful tip. Try not to get weighed down by each individual thought, and simply group such things into a category, intrusive thoughts, then ignore them. I can tell you from experience that even if you solve a thought and understand it fully, within a week your OCD will have latched onto something new and you'll be back to square one, it just keeps going round and around. Try to break the cycle.

How you do that is another story entirely. If I knew how, I wouldn't suffer from OCD ^_^ As for the "commentator not the game" thing, I'd suggest they mean you're simply observing your thoughts, not generating them voluntarily (a perspective therapists like to reinforce, not sure why). Thoughts flow and we don't have any control over them is the gist I get from the statement.

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